Gadhafi versus NTC
Posted on 14. Jan, 2012 by Franklin Lamb in Mid East
Gaddafi loyalists fighting NTC
Will a pro-Gadhafi “Green Revolution” topple the NTC?
By Franklin Lamb
Tripoli
This observer was stunned late last week when during a meeting in a Maghreb country with three high ranking former Libyan officials, among hundreds currently in hiding, and some organizing, in countries bordering Libya, one of them, in all earnest, asked me, “Do you believe there will be a counter revolution soon in the “Jamarariya (state of the masses)?”
The reason I was so surprised is that I was about to ask my hosts that very question. I was thinking that with all their security and serious faced male visitors, some western, coming and going and whispering that the reported Libyan Liberation Front groups along the Seral might be making some progress after not hearing much about them recently.
Of course this observer has little idea if the much talked ‘Green Revolution’ is strong or could topple the current NATO created and imposed government.
Certainly there are heard today many complaints in Libya about the do-nothing “non-government” that increasingly people in all walks of life are boldly complaining about. What I have observed personally is that nearly all the reports on events in Libya on certain Internet sites are false. Frankly this was also the case during the summer months here in Libya when patently false claims about NATO using MAP 108 Spanish manufactured cluster bombs against civilian or loyalist military targets, NATO using depleted uranium, or that 150,000 Libyan civilians were killed were posted as truth “from reliable sources inside Libya.” Or additional wild claims, for example, that Misrata and other areas were always in loyalist control and that the rebels were surrendering en masse and that NATO was admitting defeat the next day.
A couple of recent false claims include:
- Last week a much circulated report that: “There are green flags flying all over Zawia and the Green Revolution has captured the town!” Quite by coincidence the evening I read that claim on the Internet, I had just come from Sorman and while en route was given a tour of the battle sites from the July-August fighting in Zawia by NTC checkpoint minders. We observed most the intense battle sites including the Gadhafi Hotel site and various other Zawia locations. I observed approximately 35 captured government tanks parked along the main road and still in working condition but there was not one Green (pro-Gadhafi) flag to be seen. I had just come from a cemetery outside of Zabratha where I saw local police/militia removing green cloth swatches from graves of some who had died during the summer fighting. Green flags if they appear in Tripoli are quickly removed and replaced with the tricolor of the NTC.
-Reports that Saif al Islam has married a Zintan tribe woman and has been seen taking walks with his captors and that they are defecting to his leadership. According to the military commander of the Zintan militia group holding Saif, this is also nonsense and he claimed that the Zintan “brigade” (none of the groups here like being referred to as “militia “ these days) are not preventing Saif from seeing a lawyer but that the permission must come from the Ministry of Justice in Tripoli. Specifically, from Mr. Abdul Aziz Hazaii, Chief of Investigations at the MJ and the gentleman from whom this observer is currently awaiting approval to visit 11 incarcerated individuals.
All of us know that misinformation and disinformation are common during armed conflicts, often politically motivated. But such grossly exaggerated and unsubstantiated claims and conspiracy theories only aid the aggressors, in this case, NATO.
There is clear and growing pro-Gadhafi political and military activity here and it is why NTC leader Mustapha Abdul Jalil, the other day warned against the Gadhafi children raising an insurrection. Aisha Gadhafi, given Saif’s current incarceration, is perhaps the likely leader, given her intelligence, energy and strong commitment to replace “NATO’s rebels”, vindicate her father, preserve his correct legacy, and organize a reform movement along the lines that she and some family members and loyalists were working–with the approval, she claims, of her father before his death.
Every night more pro-Gadhafi graffiti appears on street walls, buildings and around Green (Martyrs) Square. Activists, and there appear to be more every day, assert that so far the NTC has not attacked them and they feel fairly free to speak out and even organize. It is anyone’s guess how long this situation will exist before a violent crackdown and open fighting.
It is difficult to gage the anti-NTC/ pro-Gadhafi mix and the extent to which each is propelling increasingly unpredictable events in Libya.
Yet, with the elimination of Muammar Gadhafi, which was NATO’s clear intension from March 19 when it took over the UNSCR 1973 campaign against Libya, NATO correctly concluded that without Gadhafi’s charismatic leadership in Libya and in the region, any “Green counter-revolution” would be very difficult. That is what we are seeing today.
While the restive Libyan population appears to be rebelling against the NTC for a variety of reasons, today, the urinating by NATO forces on the bodies of Afghanis is dominating the news and discussions is this pious Muslim country. NATO has already lost much of its claimed public relations boost following its Halloween night ending of the bombing. One suspects that this is because of an accumulation of many more recently discovered cases of NATO bombing of civilians in Libya and additionally the reports of innocent non-threatening soldiers as in Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The population today in Libya is increasingly furious because more and more cases are coming to light concerning the high numbers of children who have been killed by NATO.
In addition to the fury caused by the urinating NATO forces, NATO officials are being ridiculed for all their denials that their bombing missions here in Libya, numbering more than 11,000, caused civilians deaths and their claims that NATO forces conducted themselves according to the higher moral and military standards, and sometimes put themselves at risk to avoid civilian casualties. The claims remind some of a generation of similar ludicrous public relations campaign undertaken regularly by the Israeli government.
The signs from Libya are that this country remains volatile and that contrary to NATO claims that it put into place a “new democratic Libya” that the predictable next chapter is starting to unfold that may bring the end of the NTC before the coming June elections when it is scheduled to be replaced.
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Rehmat
14. Jan, 2012
The anti-Muslim Western powers created NTC to bring regime change in libya so they can loot country's natural resources. With help of the NTC or the so-called "Islamists" butchers – the West will rob Liyan for the next 10 years and then like Iraq – pack-up and leave the country to the trobal wolves.
The economic golden era under Qaddafi dictatorship is history now and will never come back.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/libya-after-qaddafi/
michael mazur
15. Jan, 2012
Rehmat, the private globalising central banks don't want Libya to recover, they want the Libyan people to now stay dirt poor which the new private central bank of Libya will effect through the simple application of the compound interest on all loans, with no easy way of repaying the loans. Unlike during Ghaddafi's time when loans were issued interest free from their state owned central bank. Gone will be free education, free health care, subsidy for newly marrieds, 5c a litre petrol, and if you have talent, subsidised university places.
The banksters don't care whether the NATO installed outfit survives or is replaced by a surviving scion of the all but destroyed Ghaddafi family, so long as the state owned central bank of Libya never returns, because then the `govt` has to borrow from the private central bank at interest – to always be in debt to the private banksters, and so won't have money for the benefits people enjoyed under Ghaddafi.
This is actually the plan for the whole of the planet, the `bad` examples – the `hold outs`, are Syria, Iran, Cuba and N.Korea.
Earlier it was Iraq. So, they hung him, and later, to drive home the message home, brutally murdered Ghaddafi. Assad and Ahmadinejad can't not know what they have in mind for them.
Question to Franklin Lamb; just how many Libyans were murdered in this NATO led mass slaughter of innocents – in which i include the `freedom fighter` dupes ?
Afriq
15. Jan, 2012
the central bank for libyans is in the vatican of the naTo – the gcc goons qatar
that disgusting place were all western failures, criminals kosher nostra go
the luxury spoilt westerner
As regards how many libyan these insane savages killed – a town of 30,000+ doesn't exists
franklin lamb tries to give a scene of something out of kosher/bollywood bimbos.
"We observed most the intense battle sites including the Gadhafi Hotel site and various other Zawia locations. I observed approximately 35 captured government tanks parked along the main road and still in working condition but there was not one Green (pro-Gadhafi) flag to be seen"
No 1
Your hosts the fece goons will not take you on a tour to green flags flying
The real revolution will make the most of what resorces they have and not give a damn about franklin lamb's visit!
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15. Jan, 2012
Gee…wonder if the new government will reinstate the universal national health care, the royalty checks received by each civilian for Libya's exports,
the free education system through college, as well as the man made river repair, the direct democracy form of government, the 75 thousand dollar grants to newly weds to get started in married life,
the interest free development loan bank being set up for the nations of Africa using the prudently invested funds of the Libyan commonwealth,
and the reactivation of the United Nation's plan to award Qaddafi an international human rights award for 35 years of progress?? Hmmm, guess the UNHRC award will now have to be given posthumously.
If they do get it together, perhaps the U.S. and NATO war criminals will be dragged before the international court in the Hague to answer for the atrocities committed by the U.S., France, GB, Italy and the scumbags gathered from all over the planet to impersonate so-called insurrectionists etc.
Afriq
15. Jan, 2012
I will gladly give my name to this great honourable comment
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